A rubber grommet is a ring with a groove on the outside that fits in a hole and helps with the passage of a pipe, cable or connector through that hole, preventing the last one touching the edges of the hole. Most common use of grommets, as described in this Wikipedia picture, is for passing cables through holes.
A brake power booster is a big cylinder with one or two diaphragms inside that helps with braking by adding extra force to the master cylinder when a smaller brake force is applied on the pedal. The extra force is generated by the suction power of the engine on the admission cycle, which in automotive terms is named manifold vacuum, or the difference of pressure between the inside of the manifold and atmospheric pressure applied on the opposite sides of the diaphragm.
Many don't understand. In combustion engines the air volume necessary for running the engine is small, at least at idle and under no load conditions. Thus, the flow of the air in the engine is restricted by a round shape valve called throttle that turns inside a cylindrical air passage with the same diameter with the throttle called throttle body with the pressing of the "gas" pedal. At idle the throttle is in perpendicular position with the air flow and closing the passage. A small amount of air (by)passes usually through a parallel passage that is also controlled by the computer through a solenoid or actuator, that is open only at idle. On the rotation axis of the throttle there is a potentiometer like sensor (similar with those in older audio devices) that turns with the throttle, thus transmitting to the computer a variable voltage that tells the computer how much the throttle is opened. Because of this severe restriction of the air flow inside the engine, vacuum is created on the intake side of the throttle. This vacuum is available and engineers long time ago figured they could use it for powering different devices and actuators in the vehicle as if would come from a vacuum pump), as the brake power booster.
In a normally running engine, at idle, this vacuum generates a difference of pressure with the atmospheric pressure of or above 22 inches mercury, that is about 11 psi and can go a little higher but obviously not higher than the atmospheric pressure itself that is about 14.7 psi since the difference it's generated by vacuum, or suction, or lack or pressure that can obviously cannot go lower than zero. 11 psi is equivalent with about one third to almost half of the pressure inside a tire that is above 32 psi.|
Here is a picture with a power booster that uses a grommet for passing the connector of a check valve.
Many don't understand. In combustion engines the air volume necessary for running the engine is small, at least at idle and under no load conditions. Thus, the flow of the air in the engine is restricted by a round shape valve called throttle that turns inside a cylindrical air passage with the same diameter with the throttle called throttle body with the pressing of the "gas" pedal. At idle the throttle is in perpendicular position with the air flow and closing the passage. A small amount of air (by)passes usually through a parallel passage that is also controlled by the computer through a solenoid or actuator, that is open only at idle. On the rotation axis of the throttle there is a potentiometer like sensor (similar with those in older audio devices) that turns with the throttle, thus transmitting to the computer a variable voltage that tells the computer how much the throttle is opened. Because of this severe restriction of the air flow inside the engine, vacuum is created on the intake side of the throttle. This vacuum is available and engineers long time ago figured they could use it for powering different devices and actuators in the vehicle as if would come from a vacuum pump), as the brake power booster.
In a normally running engine, at idle, this vacuum generates a difference of pressure with the atmospheric pressure of or above 22 inches mercury, that is about 11 psi and can go a little higher but obviously not higher than the atmospheric pressure itself that is about 14.7 psi since the difference it's generated by vacuum, or suction, or lack or pressure that can obviously cannot go lower than zero. 11 psi is equivalent with about one third to almost half of the pressure inside a tire that is above 32 psi.|
Here is a picture with a power booster that uses a grommet for passing the connector of a check valve.
Due to the way it is created, by the reciprocating motion of the pistons inside the cylinders that follows a time dependent sine pattern, engine vacuum has a pulsating nature that is partially smoothened by the volume of (low pressure) air inside the manifold and hoses (there are other pneumatic devices that are also fed with the pressure difference of pressure between inside the manifold and surrounding air that are connected to the manifold side of the throttle body though smaller and less important that also hold a certain volume of the same low pressure air in all the hoses and devices).
In a normally running engine, at idle, vacuum is about 22 inches, relative or lower than atmospheric pressure. When the gas pedal is slightly pressed and throttle opens a little, around 2000 rpm, the vacuum gets even higher, closer to zero pressure or absolute vacuum or 14.7 psi relative to atmospheric pressure due to increasing need of engine for air because of faster movement of the pistons and the throttle's opening resistance. When the throttle is opened even more, thus allowing more air freely into the manifold the vacuum starts to decrease again.
The more vacuum in the manifold, the more pulsating is the pressure difference due to increasing amplitude of the sine wave due to reciprocating motion of the pistons.
Also. Due to various dynamic forces the engine has a tendency of moving or vibrating on its rubber mounts, mostly following the cycle of pistons' reciprocating movement, but also the rpm. There are certain rpms that make the engine move more or at higher amplitudes than others due to resonance phenomena.
Also, all the hoses, including power booster vacuum hose are not rigid and move around together with the engine having their own moving pattern and resonance with certain rpms.
The grommet in the grommet solution in all different design variations (i've seen so far) have the length and diameter of the groove comparable with the sheet metal and the hole they seal, design that cannot generate a sealing force on the wall of the booster. Thus the sealing is being insured by the difference of pressure between inside and outside of the booster applied on the outer side of the grommet that presses against the booster's wall.
The check valve's connector on the grommet side has a slightly bigger diameter than the hole of the grommet and it is ribbed, and when is inserted into the grommet it causes very hard to predict deformations of both parts which in this case are static but asymmetrical due to the weight of the hose but at least at the beginning of its life and at idle it seals the vacuum or at least partially, up to a certain pressure difference or pulsating amplitude at certain rpms.
Thus there are two sealing surfaces regarding the grommet. One is between outer rim of the groove and the sheet metal around the hole and one is between the hole and the connector.
As i said the vacuum hose has its own weight. This weight is applied on the grommet side as well but with dynamic variations following the different relative motions between the grommet and the hose, generating variable forces that are impossible or very hard to predict that are in the end applied onto and sustained by the grommet, causing it to slightly change shape many times a second, or causing dynamic deformations, following the relative motion of the engine and the hose. Those changes of shape are asymmetrical due to direction of the variable force being applied on the grommet and very hard or impossible to predict, in the end changing the sealing surface, in a dynamic way and increasing it on one side and decreasing on the other.
In conclusion, both the pulsating nature of the engine manifold vacuum and the forces generated by the hose moved by the engine moving on the mounts deform the grommet dynamically, combined can change the sealing areas and pressures on the sealing surfaces of the grommet, possibly leading to small, pulsating leaks that might appear only on certain rpms and engine loads.
The power boosters are oftenly painted on the outside to check corrosion. The sealing surface between the grommet and the power booster is also painted. Paint thickness can be irregular causing unpredictable variations on the final shape and smoothness of the sealing surface and can also degrade in time or even be peeled or chipped due to age causing irregularities to grow in time and sealing to decrease, thus increasing the pulsating vacuum leak.
Peeled, eroded paint an a small indentation at the power booster grommet hole |
Grommets are made of rubber. Rubber is a material that often has irregularities but also changes properties in time due to aging. Constant pressure like from the ribs of the connector can cause grooves inside the hole of the grommet thus in time decreasing sealing capacity on that side. Also rubber looses elasticity with age thus the initial installation pressure and sealing capacity between grommet and check valve connector and capacity of following the irregularities on the painted area.
The welded connector design is much simpler, and cost comparable solution, it follows the solution on the other side of the hose, has less sealing surfaces and much less like to cause vacuum leaks.
Uncontrollable vacuum leaks in the end translates by air flowing in the engine in uncontrollable ways, bypassing the throttle body and throttle.
Small intermittent vacuum leaks on carburrated engine can cause trouble by changing in unpredictable ways the fuel/air ratio. The computer responds promptly by the reading of the oxygen sensors, thus adding more fuel.
But on injected engines even small vacuum leaks are critical because in injected engines fuel/air mixture is adjusted by a computer based on reading from one or more oxygen sensor inside the exhaust system, among others. The more oxygen the sensors read due to a vacuum leak or air escaping uncontrollably into the manifold, the more fuel it adds. Also air/fuel ratio is adjusted by the computer using readings from other sensors, including throttle positioning sensor and pressure sensors inside the manifold and intake hose. Air flowing into the manifold due to unpredictable, intermittent leaks translates into reading in the sensors than cause the engine running erratically and mainly increasing fuel consumption with all its consequences, like more fuel burning with the extra air inside the exhaust and catalytic converter, shortening the life of the catalytic converter and overheating other components of the vehicle, like floor, transmission and clutch. Extra fuel consumption also translates in more fuel being used, extra cost, pollution, etc.
The following pictures are done with my old check valve and hose and a new original grommet.
All the deformations that remain permanent due to aging of the grommet, abrasion of the paint, inevitably lead in time to more important vacuum leaks that can lead to decreasing braking capacity, but that is not obvious since it occurs very gradually and the driver gets used to. Though vacuum is present in the booster, it is diminished due to vacuum leaks that appear only in this design up to a point when the computer finally sets an error that usually indicates a lean condition (too much air in the air/fuel mixture), because through its oxygen sensors it actually measure the amount of oxygen left after the burning cycle inside the cylinder that is increased in case of vacuum leaks or more air bypassing the throttle thus unaccounted for by the TPS sensor inside the intake manifold. But when usually that happens that engine has been functioning abnormally for too long and other components have been damaged by overheating. Also the vacuum leaks even at the beginning of the life of this vehicle that are due to the grommet solution are intermittent, and the computer is programmed to put a check engine light only after a contentious malfunctioning or a high reading on one of the oxygen sensors of a certain period of time, cycles and events, that only happens when the vacuum leak grows bigger and/or gets permanent.
All these consequences can be averted if the pressed or welded connector solution is used instead of the grommet one.
It is hard for me to estimate the amount of fuel being used by multiplying this type of failure due to a faulty design to the the number of vehicles that still use it, but i estimate it in the enormous area.
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Of course the whole problem would hot have gotten this bad if the computer was programmed to recognize the situation where it gets increased readings at the oxygen sensors inside the exhaust without a correlating difference in throttle positioning sensor reading.
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From: George Ion
Date: Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Summary of the final resolution for your case 8-1636550723
To: CustomerCare@chevrolet.com
As i was expecting, my email or emails are not included or the thread have been intentionally broken so it will not appear in you answer as why and what am i claiming. My claim(s) have nothing to do with the age of the vehicle, most of the problems (issues) started when i first bought it from he dealer and they gotten worse, practically the shape it's in right now in 2004 when i did not drive if for 3 months. It does not matter how old is a vehicle when GM does a recall or when a customer finds one or several design flaws that lead to extra fuel consumption and/or pollution or health problems generating issues that have been existent for the whole life of the vehicle.
Not including the whole conversation in the reply is not acceptable as means of civilized communications.
Not even addressing the issue(s) in any way entitles me to a lawsuit or several.
Gheorghe Ion
19355 SW 65th #F5 Ave Tualatin OR 97062-8103
5034221914
9712707860
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, wrote:
Email ID# T2EM05CAC (Do not delete/alter this line)
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Dear Mr. Ion,
Per your request, here is a summary of the final resolution for your 1998 Chevrolet S-10, case number 8-1636550723.
As stated before due to the age of the vehicle any repairs needed for the vehicle would be customer pay so for that we will not be able to compensate due to this being considered as assistance. If you are in the market for a new vehicle I may look into this and explore your options. But there will not be any compensation.
Chevrolet does review each customer’s concern on an individual basis. All the facts in your situation were carefully considered, and we have determined that this decision is appropriate given the details of your case.
Regards,
Tiffany
Chevrolet Customer Assistance
Phone Number:1-866-790-5700
Extension Number: 5921096
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From: George Ion
Date: Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: How did we do with your Chevrolet S-10?
To: Carr Chevrolet , cac@chevrolet.com, jroark@carrauto.com
Dear Sirs.
A few days ago i received in the mail a letter from GM saying that they tried to contact me a couple of times and they gave me a reference number for future calls 8-1636550723.
It is true they tried to contact me by phone. One day when i was mopping the kitchen area and had my hands wet. One day when i was driving. The first time they attempted to live a voice mail but it was only half word.
Tonight i found the cause of the vacuum leak i was complaining about lately that was present ever since i bought the vehicle. Not in the intake area though i had one of the bolt holes stripped by me days before and Meineke fixed it for me.
Due to the roughness of the paint on the surface of the brake booster, it is impossible for the grommet to seal the vacuum inside. Though it works partially, at higher loads of the engine on low RPM the vacuum is partially leaking.
Today i bought a new grommet from CARR Chevrolet and it seemed much better. However, the second trip i made it seemed the leak has grown again.
Then i look and saw, besides the paint being uneven, it is also partially peeled in the area of the grommet.
I am perplexed by this design solution. On the other end of that vacuum hose there is a connector on the throttle body. Why shouldn't be a similar connector on the booster?
Though the hose is old and i cut a few mm on both ends to make it hold better and now is shorter, that is not the reason it presses unevenly on the grommet, but also its weight.
I allege the main reason for the vacuum leak is irregularity of the paint on the booster, which may be a defect for this particular vehicle, but also should not have been used as a design solution as sealing surface.
After my attempt to fix the leak at Meineke failed i went to CARR Chevrolet in Beaverton, Oregon and paid them to check for vacuum leaks. On the invoice it is written they checked for intermittent vacuum leaks on the booster but did not find any.
It is obvious there is a leak by the grommet, just by looking on the attached picture.
I suggest for Chevrolet to try and contact me by email or mail and not on the phone, or send me an email and give me a time frame for a phone call. This is not a roadside assistance request as the letter received suggests but my last attempt to inform that if this issue and all the recurrent ones is not fixed and the others including the impossible to fix oil leak and all the recurrent as shown in the previous emails a lawsuit or more will follow, most likely one for each issue.
For CARR Chevrolet. Pleas not that my legal name is Gheorghe not Gheorghie.
Gheorghe Ion
19355 SW 65th #F5 Ave Tualatin OR 97062 #F5 97062-8103
503-4221-1914
Right after i moved from Lake Oswego in Tualatin, @September 5 2015 i decided to take greater care of both my vehicles that have been neglected for years. It was easier with the Nissan that had mechanical problems like driveaxles, motor mounts, tires but also a rather complicated problem with the distributor and injection coil. (After recently replacing all the tires, they started to vibrate again).
With the Chevrolet, i ran into the same old problem that was from the beginning since i bought it in 98 and got worse in 2004. After replacing the intake gasket on Halloween eve this year at Meineke, the gasket that looked bad after been pulled out, justifying the problems i had, but the vacuum leak moved to the... throttle body gasket that apparently was missing after the work done at Meineke and reappeared miraculously again at CARR Chevrolet. After fixing that one too, the problem moved to the... grommet i wrote about in this post. I did not choose in any way the time of writing this post.
And yes, turbo means more air but not unaccounted for.
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