2017 Las Vegas Shooting

About the Mandalay shooting i wrote extensively on g+ in 2020 and now that post together with several other thousands are gone when they decided to shut down g+.

Basically i picked like usually the best opinions i could find and added mines.

Calibers and ranges. 22 guns were found in the room. The 14 5.56 mm modified AR15s are not effective at that range (350 yards) while the other 8 7.62 mm R10s could have been effective. For comparison, the 7.62 mm AK47 has an effective range of 300-350 meters. When they talk about effective range they mean aimed targets. If shot in a crowd, aiming is irrelevant, and .223 bullets will still be able to kill even at that distance where their speed is still above the speed of sound. In the images posted so far there was no blood on the ground, dead bodies or ambulances on the roads with a few exceptions. As a coincidence, the fences seemed to work as stretchers. But i don't believe they were lots of trucks on the streets as everybody would try to get away from the shooting. As seen seen in this video, there was no muzzle flash from automatic gun fire at those windows while the sound was heard which means the shooter must have been way inside the room. However in this video, there is muzzle flash though seen at a much lower floor. From a lower angle, one single bullet would have a better chance of hitting one person or the other in the crowd.

There should be hundreds of bullet casings on the floor of that room (the breakage in the window was not all the way to the floor) as they could not all fly through the broken window and also hundreds of bullets found and marked by the Police on the ground at targeted area.

Distance. This is a screenshot from Google Earth showing the view of the shooter from the hotel's broken window. That distance at ground level is about 340 meters, should add a few meters due to height of 32 floor x 4.5 meters = 140 meters floor height. Total distance was about 360 meters. For a better view, right click, open image in new tab.Logistics. I would assume he needed some time and luck to bring a number of 22 semi-automated rifles all in cases in the room and then when the shooting took place to run around the room and grab another gun after one was overheated, maybe jammed by continuously firing 100 rounds from the modified magazines. 

Action. First he had to break the windows. These are semi-automated rifles, not machine guns, they were not designed to fire like this. After firing 100 rounds with a (semi) automated weapon, the room would have filled with gunpowder gas, making it hard to breath, don't know if the gas coming out of the breakage in window would be visible, some parts of the weapon like the gas tube or even the barrel would get glowing red, could have melt, burnt the carpet or even started a fire by setting them down like that. Same goes for hot bullet casings that get hotter as the gun gets hotter.

As for aiming while shooting 100 rounds continuously in automated mode at 350 meters, that is a different story. There is lots of sway due to recoil, maybe up to 10 degrees when firing an automated weapon out of hand and aim is only initial, you loose it after you start to fire because of flame at the nozzle, sway do to recoil. One degree at 350 meters means 6 meters (on vertical). I would  think most bullets would fall outside the area with the crowd.

Aftermath. Firing without aiming would result besides the 59 reportedly killed, in lots of wounded, maybe up to a few hundreds, some critical, that would have filled the ERs in Vegas. I saw in the video above people were using trucks to move the wounded to hospitals. Mandalay Bay hotel is at 159 and 582.

I would think the cover of the scene, the stand and the ground whatever cars etc. would have been all riddled with bullet holes and bullets all marked by Police.

Girlfriend. Said from Philippines, could very well have been a Japanese ninja.

Unanswered questions. Just reviewed more videos about the shooting. This 20/20 video describes they were 3 versions of reports from authorities regarding when the security guard was shot (in his leg). However that is not  the most interesting part of it. The man with Spanish name looks Japanese to me, and the tough, not the actor kind. Heavyweight lifter, or maybe even sumo wrestler. Useful when firing out of hand an automated rifle in full auto mode.

I know from experience. At the casinos were i go there are many people dressed in uniforms (janitors, technicians, security, that certainly are not working there, but in my case they just do scenes for cameras).

In casino hotels security guards don't go around checking on doors unless they're called. They simply don't want people to see them around i guess because that would be a turn off. But who would stay in the hallway to see a door was open for an extended period of time and call security? I've once been to a hotel in Reno where the room was stinking so bad from a leaky toilet i had to put a shoe in the door and leave it open for hours and nobody came to check. And the big question. Why would Paddock leave the door open, just to draw attention? But when Jesus arrived, the door was closed, and he checked and it was blocked. I would assume he had a no disturbing sign at the door, not wanted to be more disturbed than he already was but anyways by checking the door he broke one of the hotel's rules, as he didn't have any reason at that time (they were three different times given by authorities).

And why a (traumatized) 25 years old bodybuilder from Mexico shown by Ellen as a hero speaks English so well? In my opinion, this guy should have been a suspect. When you see a dead 64 years old skinny guy lying on the floor who could probably barely lift one of those guns, especially when loaded with 100 rounds magazines, with his skull open and too little blood next to him you should never assume that he was the shooter. That was a Rambo job.

And one more thing. There are cameras in all hallways and elevators, that would have shown the moment Jesus came and knocked at that door and what happened after, and also Paddock bringing over a few days 22 cases with guns (cases which have a certain rectangular elongated shape because of the length of the gun, cannot be mistaken for suitcases, but the guns could have also been dismantled), or the same case, in and out, 22 times. And since the cameras are there for the reason of hallways always being monitored, how come nobody saw that. I remember now from the video with the "questions", first they said he checked on 28 and when they sensed (feedback) the public started to ask themselves, they extended "on the fly" the period to 25. Once or twice per shift (of monitoring officers) would not have been that suspicious, but the shifts repeat. One officer could have seen the familiar scene repeating over a few days.

Oct 06 4:40 PM Destroying infromation by superseeding. Also the stabbing.