Referendum

Grafice cu prezenţa din datele publicate până acum:           

 

Sursă: http://www.cotidianul.ro/prezenta-la-vot-la-referendum-pana-la-ora-1700-189938/

Sursă http://www.cotidianul.ro/bec-prezenta-la-vot-la-referendum-pana-la-ora-2000-189952/

Sursă http://www.cotidianul.ro/numaratoarea-usl-ora-2100-189950/

Sursă http://www.agenda.ro/rezultate-referendum-2012-exit-poll-prezenta-la-vot-44-da-pentru-demiterea-lui-basescu-peste-80/256426

"Populaţia stabilă a României este de 19 milioane de persoane, potrivit rezultatelor provizorii de la Recensământul Populaţiei şi Locuinţelor, făcute publice de Institutul Naţional de Statistică (INS), în scădere cu 2,5 milioane de persoane faţă de recensământul din 2002.

Dintre aceştia, 18,34 de milioane de oameni erau prezenţi în ţară la momentul recensământului iar 658.000 de persoane erau temporar plecate. Plecaţi pe perioadă îndelungată sunt oficial 910.000 de români, în vreme ce 300.000 de conaţionali erau doar temporar prezenţi."

"The stable population of Romania is about 19 million persons, according the the temporary results of the census done by Institutul Naţional de Statistică (INS) (in 2011), less 2.5 million persons since the 2002 census.

Of these, 18.34 millions where in the country during census and .68 where abroad. Officially on long term there are  .91 million Romanians abroad while .3 where temporary present."

http://www.jurnalul.ro/economia/recensamant-2011-e-oficial-populatia-romaniei-a-scazut-sub-20-de-milioane-603177.htm

http://www.recensamantromania.ro/rezultate-2/


Oops. Deci Institulul Naţional de Statistică nu a publicat pe site rezultatele finale ale recensămânului. Deci luăm de bună ce spune Jurnalul Naţional. Deci dacă sunt în ţară 18,37 milioane de români şi 0,658 plecaţi de unde 18.292.514 români cu drept de vot?

Să zicem că populaţia este egal repartizată pe vărste între 0 şi 70 ani, până la 18 ani sunt 25% deci din 19 milioane adică 4.75. Nu înţeleg.

Oops. Institutul National de Statistică did not publicized on its site the final results of the 2011 census. If we believe what Jurnalul National says, there are in Romania 18.37 million citizen and 0.658 million abroad, where do we take from 18.29 million with right to vote?

Let's say the population is equally divided on groups of ages between 0 and 70, then between 0 and 18 there are 70/18*19.3=4.75. I don't understand.

"Ministrul Administraţiei şi Internelor, Ioan Rus, a anunţat, marţi, că numărul total al cetăţenilor cu drept de vot este de 18.292.514"

"The Minister of Interior, Ioan Rus anounced tuesday that the total number of citizens with right to vote is  18.292.514"

http://www.gandul.info/news/rus-numarul-total-al-cetatenilor-cu-drept-de-vot-este-de-18-292-514-9899590 

Hai să zicem că a scăzut natalitatea şi de fapt între 0 şi 18 ani nu sunt 4,75 milioane ci doar jumătate, adică 2,375 milioane şi tot un iese. Cum zic ei ar însemna ca între 0 şi 18 ani sunt doar  18,37 + 0,658 - 18,29 adică 19,02 - 18,29 adică 0.73 milioane de cetăţeni români între 0 şi 18 ani ceea ce ar însemna că în ultimii 18 ani în Romania s-au născut şi din aceştia au supravieţuit numai 0,73 milioane. Dar dacă ţinem cont de faptul că populaţia României a scăzut în ultimii 18 ani cu 3 milioane şi jumătate iar mortalitatea a fost cam aceeaşi rezultă că natalitatea a scăzut doar la o treime. Asta ar însemna că sunt cam 1,25 milioane de români între vârsta 0 şi 18 şi nu 0,73 ce ar însemna o reducere a natalităţii de 7 ori.

Căci natalitatea este cam egală cu mortalitatea la o ţară care în ultimii zeci de ani înainte de 1994 a avut o populaţie relativ constantă. Deci într-o perioadă de 18 ani un sfert din populaţia României, adică aprox 5 milioane, se schimbă. Dar dacă a scăzut numai cu 3,5 milioane, înseamnă că s-au mai născut 1,25.

Acum încep să înţeleg de ce nu s-a publicat pe site-ul de mai sus rezultatele finale ale recensământului.

Nu sunt statistician de meserie dar oricine poate înţelege că grupa de vărsta 0-18 are rata mortalităţii cea mai mică din toate grupele de vârstă. Nu se poate compara de ex cu grupa de vârsta 52-70. Logic. Deci probabil mai mult de un sfert din populaţia unei ţări cu o evoluţie demografică normală este cuprinsă în această vârstă.

Dar hai să punem problema altfel. În Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_birth_rate rata natalităţii României este la poziţia 180 din 221 cu 10 naşteri la 1000 locuitori în fiecare an. Asta înseamnă 10.000 naşteri la un milion şi 190.000 naşteri la 19 milioane, deci în 18 ani s-au născut 3.420.000 români, cazul cel mai defavorabil. (rata natalităţii precum şi populaţia a fost şi mai mare în această perioadă). Fără drept de vot. Dar acum îmi veni în minte altă întrebare, de ce a scăzut atât de mult populaţia României, un răspuns ar fi sunt mai mulţi plecaţi în străinătate decât sunt declaraţi în recensământ, sau o catastrofă demografică fără precedent, de care cei care au guvernat în ultimii ani nu pot să nu spună că nu sunt responsabili.

Let's say that birth rate decreased and in fact there are not 4,75 millions between 0 and 18 but only half, that is 2.375. According to the Minister of Interior, it would mean that between the age of 0 and 18 there are 18.37 + 0.65 - 18.29 that is 19,28 - 18.29 = 0.738 million citizens between the ages of 0 and 18, that is a reduction of birth rate way too big in the last 18 years compared to the year 1994. But the population of Romania decreased in the last 18 years with 3.5 millions and if the death rate stayed about the same that would mean that birth rate only decreased with one third that would mean there are about  1.25 million Romanians between the age of 0 and 18. not 0.73.

And that is because in Romania the birth rate was about equal with death rate in the last decades.

They were 22,760,449 Romanians in Romania in 1992,  the closest number i could find in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#Demographics It is reasonable to assume using the decrease rate calculated from that table that in 1994 they where about 22.5 millions.

But let's put this in a different way. In Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_birth_rate Romania is on position 180 of 221 with 10 births per 1000 inhabitants every year. That means 10,000 births to 1 million and 190.000 at 19 millions, thus in 18 years have been born 3.420.000 Romanian, worst case scenario (Population was more than 19 million and birth rate was bigger than 10). Without right to vote.
Added 07-30-12 12:54 PDT from http://www.cotidianul.ro/documentele-care-ar-putea-face-ca-referendumul-sa-ia-o-cu-totul-alta-turnura-190155/

C I S V

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From: "George Ion" <geion@verizon.net>
To: < international@cisv.org>
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:20:17 -0700
Subject: Question
Gheorghe Ion
6810 SW Hall Blvd #16
Beaverton, OR, 97008
geion@verizon.net
503-367-3377

Hello

In 1972 when i was twelve I've been in a CISV camp in Kisdorf, near Hamburg, Germany, sent by the communist regime in Romania.

The exact location is Ulmenhof in Kisdorf, as shown below. It's probably a school now.

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4659551

Seeing that picture triggered lots of memories.

I never quite understood why me, because there were many other eligibile (children of the communist elite), like the other three kids in the Romanian delegation. I never quite understood why an organization like yours would invite children from the communist countries, since the only ones that would benefit would be the children of the above elite, with few exceptions.

Not speaking any international language, except for a few french words made it tough for us, almost traumatizing. We weren't able to communicate with the other kids. I remember quite vividly Klauss, the director of the camp asking me severeal times in French: "Pourquoi tu es toujour si seul ?". That made me feel somewhat guilty.

I also have nice memories from there, like driving a car for the first time in my life (a Renault 4 owned or rented by Olaf from Sweden) and being saved from drowning in an Olympic size swimming pool. (I was a poor swimmer at that time.)

Also dancing for the first time in the dark in a "discoteque" with the chef's daughter, Suzanna (I don't know the exact spelling) organized by a couple of local german guys that were hanging around. I think one of them was the son of a prominent local CISV member.

I remember once Klauss filmed me with a nice camera with zoom I also played with and during projection, the film jammed and I saw my image catching fire on the screen.

I am asking your help in consolidating the memories of those days with the complete list of the sites visited and a list of the staff present in the camp with their qualifications.

As I said I didn't speak any English at the time. But from singing the camp's song every morning, i memorized the words and reconstructed the lyrics later on. Please confirm that this was the camp's song lyrics.

"Here in this village you may see
Children living happily
Swedes, Finns, Turks, Romanians
British, Germans, Canadians
Philippines, Italians too
We have many things to do
How am i alike to you"

Especially the last line doesn't sound quite right.

Many appreciations for your work,

Gheorghe Ion



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From: "George Ion" <geion@verizon.net>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:36:38 -0700
Subject: Fw: Fwd: Question
Hello

I wasn't lucky contacting the global site. Please read the following thread and help me if you can.

George Ion



----- Original Message -----
From: Bertil Hron
To: geion@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Question

Dear Gheorghe,

Thank you very much for your e-mail. It is good to hear that, after so many years, you are still thinking of your CISV experience.

First of all, as regards names and addresses we are not able to give out personal details about participants. However, we recommend that your register on the CISV Friends website ( http://friends.cisv.org) and claim participation in your Village (V-1972-006), and in doing so, possibly make contact with other people who participated in your programme.

By registering on the CISV Friends website you will also receive regular links to CISV publications such as CISV News and the CISV Annual Review.

Secondly, I am afraid we do not have the specific information you are requesting as related to excursion destinations.

Thirdly, as for the lyrics you provided, these appear to have been specific to your programme. Sometimes in the different programmes the lyrics of the CISV song and other songs are adapted by the participants to fit their programme or as part of a performance for a public occasions such as Open Day.

The official lyrics of the CISV Song are these:

The CISV Song (Kathleen Milne/Bjarne Kirk)

Here in this village you may see
Children living happily
Different race and different land
Here we come to understand
One another’s point of view
Learning through the things we do
How alike am I to you

Here we live and eat and sleep
Talk and laugh and sometimes weep
Here we share our hopes and fears
Build a bridge across the years
Sow a seed and plant a tree
Beneath whose branches there may be
All the nations gathered free

That our children so may grow
In a world we did not know
Sharing all they have to give
Learning how to love and live
In our hands the future lies
Seize the moment ‘ere it flies
Stamp the present with an act
Dare to make our dream a fact

Cheers,
Bebbe

Tuesday, 7 October 2008

03/31/1972 Don't know if i wrote above about holding hands while singing the version of the song written first above. Stumbled across a picture today. At the end of the song we were turning around while still holding hands forming a circle eacg facing outside and only then we were breaking with hands throwing them towards ground.

Dulce Bucovină

http://bukowina.info


Wilde zeiten in Kimpolung

Surpassing The Limits of Offense

When i first came to US i got paranoid about an expression. Take care. It is an affectionate, familial form of letting someone know you care for them, used mostly in temporary, daily separation salutes. But to me, in the hurry (of translating) given by the multitude of initial traumas and stress due to the move, it sounded like a threat. (Now i know it was all "simulated, anticipated and under control").

Similar to what i felt yesterday when i saw on a "Oregon Cultural" vanity plate. B CARFULL. It shouldn't have affected me if even if i know it was not by accident that guy psychologically cornered me on the street.

But i see nowadays people getting and acting like being offended, by things that i say in the supposed intimacy of my living place.

Isn't this kinda of passing a new limit of hysteria, to get offended by overhearing and showing it, waiting for more reactions, in an endless "controlled" echo-logical, self-sustained loop (not to say by eavesdroping, because i might fall in a different keyword category)? Kinda like in organized stalking?

I was thinking adding the word mindless to the above phrase but i feel like it's already getting too complicated. But i think i learned a lot about what consequential behaviour is, which is probably a cousin of casual behaviour and the significance of the stage name of a Black Eyes Peas member, Will.I.Am.

And then something else came to my mind. A song i heard so many times while holding for Sony Customer Service Reps. in Laredo, Texas.


And then i realized, that's why so many people have GPS today, in their cars, on their smart-phones, cameras, everywhere.

Keep Portland Weird

https://www.google.com/search?q=keep+portland+weird&source=lnms&tbm=isch&gws_rd=ssl

"Wyrd is a concept in Anglo-Saxon culture roughly corresponding to fate or personal destiny. The word is ancestral to Modern English weird, which retains its original meaning only dialectically."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd

Ethics in Germanic Neopaganism are guided by a concept of personal ørlög or wyrd, encompassing the notions of both fate and luck. The belief in Wyrd — a concept of fatalism or determinism,[12] similar to some Graeco-Roman concepts of destiny is a commonly held belief amongst most Germanic Neopagans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_neopaganism

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Amulet_Thor%27s_hammer_%28copy_of_find_from_Sk%C3%A5ne%29_2010-07-10.jpg

Acting on Wrong Assumptions

"What a tangled web we weave"

Implying or creating time synchronized information that is not related to but makes it statistically reasonable for someone to believe something that is not real, isn't similar to tempting?

Knowingly creating situations that are statistically more likely to cause someone to fail in their actions, or damage to their health isn't similar to persecuting?

Creating or bringing in the spotlight events or information similar but unrelated with other events with the purpose of creating confusion,  hesitations, misinterpretations, lowering resolve or forgetting, isn't that misleading?

Creating a string of events that verify each other and storing all the information created with the purpose of justifying one of them, usually the most important, in case it succeeds, can't event think of a definition here.

Breaking daily and hourly numerous other laws in the process of committing all of the above.

How many times these misdoings are multiplied over the years and if they are many people involved and everything is coordinated so the above mentioned informations and situations are integrated into the larger picture of an entire fake reality with the purpose of verifying each other down to a certain level?

What kind of society is the one that allows all this happen within its structure of authorities?

Băsescu Look-Alike

Nicson, Ceauşescu

"President Nixon announced today he is going to be the first US chief executive to visit a Communist country - Romania."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=6NcvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Q1cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4159,5961914&dq=nixon+romania+visit&hl=en

"Ceausescu agreed with Nixon that there were basic differences in the two governments and said these differences had caused problems in the past. But, he assured Nixon, there were still grounds for cooperation between the United States and Romania in scientific and cultural development. "

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5FozAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iDIHAAAAIBAJ&pg=4207,2172498&dq=nixon+romania&hl=en

https://www.google.com/search?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&tbm=nws&gl=us&as_q=nixon%20rumania%20visit&as_occt=any&as_drrb=a&tbs=ar%3A1&authuser=0#hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&sa=X&psj=1&ei=kiixT5ytN-uWiQfGjJX2CA&ved=0CDMQBSgA&q=nixon+romania+visit&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=b63f0232fc7dce2f&biw=1028&bih=544

Better Watch What You Say

"There are times when all the world's asleep,
the questions run too deep
for such a simple man.
Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
I know it sounds absurd
but please tell me who I am.

Now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical,
liberal, fanatical, criminal."

Fry's, Wilsonville, OR

Neon Tigard

PCC Sylvania

George's Giant Hamburgers

Young's Funeral, Tigard, OR

Wilsonville Ramp

Bella Furnishings

Two Google Searches And A Link

Lenin Statue

Hitler Salute

http://georgesblogforfriends.blogspot.com/2012/01/kaiser-khazaria-and-lenin.html

Problema

Am început să cred, deşart, că România s-a dat pe brazdă. Că după 22 de ani de democraţie şi-a secretat, în sfârşit, o elită, ce-i drept mai flămândă decât normal, în stare să o scoată din faza critică. Dar cu 90% din banii de la FMI ducându-se pe apa sâmbetei iar cu restul plătind bugetarii, după cum spunea Simona Tache, România, în moarte clinică, dansează un dans telecomandat.

Elita României zace pe lângă canal şi pe lângă fostele puşcării de exterminare sovietice în morminte câteodată neştiute.

Ce au avut în comun ultimele 3 guverne?

Au fost trei pitici. Unul chiar pe bune, ceilalţi doi, tineri şi compatibili, mă uitam cum se uită la colegii lor de partid, mai vârstnici şi mi-am dat seama din priviri cum încearcă să le ghicească dorinţele, piticindu-se în faţa lor.

De săptămâni sondează ţara cu liste şi cu feedback corectându-şi imagina şi vopsesc realitatea ca să li se potrivească mai bine şi trag de timp până la alegeri în toamnă, când totul va intra într-o mereu nouă, (im)previzibilă normalitate.

Guvernele îşi pasează unul altora "problema", fără să o cunoască, căci o problemă odată cunoscută e pe jumătate rezolvată. Adevăratele probleme, incompetenţa, impostura, şi în final dependenţa de ordine din afară, domnilor, le căraţi mai departe cu voi. Acestea sunt problemele care vă apasă umerii, piticindu-vă.

Cowboys & Indians

About maybe 5 years ago i had an email signature that sounded like this:

"It's easy to win when you own both teams".

I kept that signature for about a year or so despite some cries from my "friends" to remove it. Until myself i got bored with it.

Kinda like when i was kid and i was playing villains and deputies with my childhood friends in my home-town.

We were splitting in two teams by affinities and who knows by what other completely childish criteria and started chasing each other, nobody was getting hurt, all that mattered was the action. Maybe just our throats after all that yelling. And all the neighbours were ignoring us, it was our escape in doing all the crazy things we couldn't normally do. It was a privileged time.

But it's bad for you when you're not enrolled in none of the teams and have to play the role of the ball  in a game or that of a yo-yo that you buy in a toy store. And you have to also look sad and/or mad all the time which in a situation like this only comes naturally.

Băsescu şi flota

Cred că ştiu ce a făcut Băsescu cu flota. A vândut-o la preţuri normale şi a băgat banii în corupţia din România băi frate şi cât a fost primar la Bucureşti şi-a construit în linişte viitorul de preşedinte. Nu vă speriaţi că am impresia că nu mai scăpaţi vreodată de el şi de ai lui. You can't escape the başçavuş escu.